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 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 09:50 am
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Hello and thank you for reading.

I have been suffering from halitosis for so many years now. I've recently done some research on the internet and found out it could be candida.

I've recently read about someone who had candida in his oesophagus and had similar symptons to me.

I've had halitosis since being a child. I always have a white tongue but not excessive. I occasionally get pains in my oesophagus. When I was younger I used to get a lot of indigestion. I still get quite a bit but not as much as before. I have a good balanced diet and keep myself very fit. Overall I'm a fit, healthy person therefore I do not know the reason for my problem. I often feel very tired also. I have recently been for a checkout having had a filling and my teeth are perfectly fine.

The other reason for me thinking it is candida is because about 1 year ago I was on antibiotics. I remember waking up in the morning and feeling my mouth was very clean, there was very little bacteria and my tongue wasn't white. Although it's difficult to say, I felt that my breath did not smell. I tried smelling it also and I'm sure it didn't. However, of course I had to finish the antibiotics and the bad breath returned, maybe even slightly worse. I just can't help but feel that it's down to yeast/candida.

Can anyone help me please. I'd really appreciate any advice.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 10:07 pm
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omcornwall wrote:
I have been suffering from halitosis for so many years now. I've recently done some research on the internet and found out it could be candida. I've recently read about someone who had candida in his oesophagus and had similar symptons to me.

Yep, that person would be me. If it weren't for bad breath I don't think I would have ever found out I had a Candida infection in my esophagus.

The best advice I can give you is to just get tested for Candida by a doctor, preferably a gastroenterologist. If you are unable to get a doctors cooperation, then you could either try the natural remedies such as the Candida diet or certain herbs and supplements, or you could go the prescription drug route and take a round of anti fungals. It's up to you really.

And yes, antibiotics can cause a Candida overgrowth in your body, so it's possible you have Candida.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 01:42 am
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Thanks for the reply.

I'll have to get tested then. I'm kinda hoping that I do suffer from candiadas as it would mean I've located the problem. But, I'm in the UK and all these things with doctors and referrals tend to take so much time. :(.

I'm going to start a candida diet soon. Looks difficult though as you can't drink, can't have any sugar or yeast. Really don't know what I'm gonna eat.

How did you find the medication? I take it they have to be prescribed?

Regarding the antibiotics. Well it was only the last year when I took them. Before that I really can't remember taking any, but I did have halitosis from an early age (about 10).

Can I ask you then. Did you find your BB was bad when you didn't eat anything for some time? For example, if I don't have any breakfast and then come midday I find my BB is maybe at it's worst?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 05:54 am
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Good luck with finding a doctor. From what most people I've chatted with have told me, it's next to impossible to find one that will be knowledgeable about Candida, or one that is willing to take you seriously. But there are a few doctors out there who can help you. I hope you have good luck and find that one.

I don't really follow a Candida diet per se. I just don't eat bread anymore (or anything made with yeast, white flour, or wheat flour). I also don't eat mushrooms, and I don't drink alcohol. I try to limit the sugary foods I eat, but I still eat them from time to time. Other than that I eat everything else, including all meats, fruits, vegetables, and some grains like oats.

In the West anti fungal medicines have to be prescribed, but I live in Thailand. You can buy them over the counter here from pharmacies at a much cheaper cost than what you can find them for online.

I think my bad breath was the same all the time, but since I never could smell my own bad breath, I can't really answer that question. From the reaction of other people, i'd say it didn't matter what I ate or did, my bad breath was there all day and night.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 02:58 pm
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Well yes definitely I kinda expect to have to explain candida to the doctor rather than him explain it to me. However, I intend on trying to get me a referral so that I can have a endoscopy done and take it from there. In the meantime in about a week I plan on seriously starting a candida diet. Just pisses me off when you get information on the net contradicting itself. From what I gather sugars and yeast are definitely a no no :((((((. Oh well, if it was another condition then I probably wouldn't sacrifice it but given the issues I've had with BB I'll definitely give it a good go.

As far as the diet goes. I've seen contradicting sides to say tap water is ok and some say it's not. What's your take? Just based on the fact most places tell you not to eat fruit or fruit juice (which will both contain natural sugars at least) then I'm very limited. What can I drink? I find herbal tea makes my breath worse. Cheese is definitely a big no no, which really upsets me as it's really a treat for me.

But today my breath smelt in the afternoon even after brushing my teeth. Really got me down. Although I had some probiotic yogurt and it's gone for now :) Really starting to understand some sort of pattern with all this. Just need to find the right foods and hopefully eventually take some medication.

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That's the problem with all the Candida diets you find online. So many of them have contradicting information. I tend to steer clear of the main things that most of them agree on, such as bread (or any yeast containing product), mushrooms, alcohol, wheat flour and white flour. Everything else I eat. Meats, fruits, vegetables, some grains such as oats, and even some dairy like yogurt or goats milk. I never really was a cheese fan though...

I would say no on tap water. I heard it can have heavy metals in it. I just refill my water bottles from those water machines that have filters, or you can just buy a water filtration product, like Brita or something like that. They are not too expensive nowadays.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 12th, 2010 06:27 pm
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Have any of you tried liquid chlorophyll?

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 Posted: Fri May 14th, 2010 01:09 am
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The whole thing is doctors dont know about candidiasis. That's the only reason forums like this exist. I wouldn't be letting people know i was a health writer if i was you especially if you give out crap advice like that. I haven't been on this site for a while as i found something that's working for me & i sent back the threelac and got a refund. The only reason i'm on here now is that i received an email telling me there was a response to this topic & i feel sorry for those guys suffering with halitosis & i was going to share info that i know would help anyone with candida problems but what a waste of time to come back here & find some know-it-all who obviously has candidiasis themself espousing advice. Now i'm going tn click on unwatch topic.

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To everyone feeling depressed about suffering from chronic bad breath, don't lose hope, there really are solutions to this frustrating problem.

My girlfriend first told me that I had bad breath six months ago, though the likelihood is I've had it much longer and other people were either too scared or embarrassed to tell me. It was hard for me to initially accept that I had bad breath, not to mention extremely embarrassing and a blow to my confidence and self-esteem.

What was most frustrating, however, was that I actually couldn't tell that I had a bad breath problem. I couldn’t smell anything and the only time I had an inkling was when I dabbed the back of my tongue with my finger and smelt it. My girlfriend was on the receiving end of my bad breath, and noticed it especially after I ate, whenever I physically exerted myself, or when I was stressed. Needless to say, it took a toll on our relationship, as the bad breath inhibited us from getting close or intimate.

Having tried to remedy the problem myself with regular brushing, mouthwash, chewing gum, and a tongue scraper, I visited two different dentists only to be told that my teeth and gums were absolutely fine and not the cause of my bad breath.

Following that I also visited two different GPs. The first doctor prescribed me an over-the-counter bacterial mouthwash, which temporarily eradicated the problem for a week or so, while the other referred me for a gastroscopy, which – apart from revealing a mild case of Gastritis - showed no direct correlation to my bad breath (i.e Acid Reflux).

Most recently, I visited a homeopathic doctor who, following an hour-long consultation, concluded that the cause of my bad breath emanated from my stomach due to an internal imbalance that resulted in poor digestion.

She prescribed a concoction of mixed herbs to be taken as cups of tea three times per day, along with some drops (also to be taken before eating three times per day). I've been taking the treatment for about a week now and my bad breath has, I've been told, almost completely gone! I still can't quite believe it. It’s early days (the treatment lasts one month) but I'm feeling much more optimistic and seriously recommend consulting a homeopath.

For those interested in the details of my treatment, please feel free to read on…

The initial 60-minute consultation was pretty extensive and included me talking about my family, childhood, traumatic experiences and other instances of ill health (I also suffer from Alopecia) and past visits to the hospital (i.e. for broken bones). It felt rather like a therapy or counselling session.

The doctor then asked me to lie down on a bed while she administered a form of Japanese acupuncture. This lasted for around 20 minutes. Following that, she performed some New Age-type exercises that helped her form a diagnosis.

The 50ml bottle of drops prescribed to me is called Amara-Tropfen and helps to aid digestion. I take 30 drops in water (can be taken without water too) three times per day just before eating.

The tea that I drink three times per day consists of the following ingredients...

- Passion flower/fruit herbs (20g)
- Hypericum herbs (20g)
- Oat straw (15g)
- Camomile flowers (30g)
- Barberry (20g)
- Linseed (25g)
- Flax seeds (25g)
- Blackthorn (15g)
- Bitter fennel (25g)
- Caraway seeds (15g)

As homeopathy is a very personalised form of treatment, I wouldn't recommend simply replicating the above ingredients, you'll need to take a combination of ingredients specific to your own situation.

I appreciate that this can sound like a load of mumbo-jumbo but it has honestly made a difference to my bad breath - and more so than any western/traditional medicine.

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