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 Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 11:53 pm
   
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Many people use the "Spit" or "Saliva Test" and THE main measuring stick on if they have a candida yeast problem.  Unfortunately these folks are only getting part of the story, and here's why...

But first let me briefly describe the spit test so we're all on the same page.  Essentially when you first wake up after a night's sleep, before you brush your teeth or use mouth wash or drink coffee-- you need to take out a clear glass and fill it with about 8 ounces of water.

Then you spit in it. 

It's that simple.

And then you wait 30 minutes and take a look at the saliva. 

If the saliva has "legs", which dangle down through the water-- pointing towards the bottom of the glass, then you could have an overabundance of candida yeast in your system.  Some people even report some "debris" in the bottom of the glass.

A body that is potentially free from a candida yeast overgrowth, yields saliva that lays on the surface of the water, forming bubbles-- and without numerous "legs" dangling down through the water towards the bottom of the glass.

This is all well and good, but like I said previously this is only "part of the story" and in my opinion it's not even the important part!

I've mentioned in other writings that it's not the candida yeast themselves that help contribute to our issues-- it's the waste they emit.

As we all know, every live organism, eats, rests and expells waste product.  Candida yeast are no different.  And with all the different varieties of candida that inhabit our bodies they emit different types of waste.  To make a long story short we seem to exhibit varying degrees of allergic reactions to these wastes.  In essence, these wastes are potentially "toxic".

So while the spit test may give us some idea of the presence of candida yeast in our bodies it WILL NOT tell us how potentially allergic we are to the waste emitted by the fungus.  You see the problem with just going by the spit test to determine if you have a potential candida yeast problem?

I've many times heard from people that have done the spit test and have reported that their saliva did not seem to indicate a lot of yeast in their bodies BUT they felt awful, often suffering with many of the issues we associate with a candida yeast problem. 

Consequently, I've had others report just awful results from their saliva test-- but they didn't feel that bad, not did they have many issues.

You have to keep in mind that different people exhibit different allergic reactions or different "levels of tolerance" to these waste products, expelled by the candida yeast.  That's why one person may have gas & bloating with nail fungus, while another has oral thrush, and another suffers with sinus problems and food allergies. 

Do you see why this is so complicated?

First you have to consider how much candida yeast is within your body.

Then you have to consider how allergic you are to the various toxins being released by those candida yeast.

And then you have one more thing to consider... how much candida yeast you need to eliminate from your body in order to get your issues to a point that's good for you.

Again, we're dealing in an area that needs a lot of research in order for us to get conclusive answers BUT let me share this with you-- and I've worked with over 15,000 candida yeast sufferers in my life.  It does appear that some folks only need a little help controlling their candida yeast (and their toxic wastes) in order to get the amount relief they desire, and then you have people that need a lot of help getting their candida yeast under control, because it appears that just a small amount of this toxic waste flowing throughout their bodies can trigger a variety of issues. 

And when you just go by the results of the spit test you aren't getting a full picture.  You're not going to know how allergic you are to those toxins, nor are you going to know how much candida yeast you're going to need to control in order get your issues under control. 

So if you can't use the spit test to conclusively tell you if you have a problem or not... then what can you use?

That's easy!

Your issues.

Take an inventory of your issues and how bad they are.  Then as you go through a candida cleanse program, you need to accurately track (or as accurately as you can), how your issues change from week to week. 

I've often had people tell me that their saliva test did not appreciably improve over a few week or even month period BUT they their issues improved! 

What's happened is that the person was able to control their candida yeast to a point, where the toxins being released by the candida yeast were no longer pumping through the person's body in large enough quantities to contribute to a candida yeast problem.

And remember for some of us we only need to control the candida yeast a little bit... others-- a lot more.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 06:19 pm
   
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Thank you so much for explaining this.  I've had problems for over a year and I'm still trying to understand it all. 

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 Posted: Wed Dec 30th, 2009 02:47 am
   
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I did the spit test this morning for the first time and within seconds it started to spiral down.

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 Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2010 01:27 am
   
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I also wrote an article that explains why the Candida spit test isn't a reliable test. This test is promoted by marketers trying to get people to by their products...

http://www.candidafood.com/2009/12/candida-saliva-test-yeast-spit-test/

You really have to take a look at all of your symptoms and not rely on the results of this test.:)

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 Posted: Sun May 23rd, 2010 06:06 pm
   
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Ahhhh ha!  This explains my son.  I have been treating him with strict diet,  probiotics and Oregano Oil..  On the third or fouth day, he went into 'die off' mode.  I mean it was severe!  He acted drunk!  Fell in the furniture, the lamp, my music box collection..etc.  Wouldn't listen to me... Tried to wander outside without his clothes on... on and on...  No equilibrium at all.  I will mention here that my son is a 35 yr old man with severe autism.. That includes behavior disorder..  I am sure he has had candida for most of his life.. as he was on an excessive amount of antibiotics as a child for ear infections.  After the 'die off', I noticed a sharp change in him.  The eyes looks clearer.. he was more alert... his behaviors settled down immensely..  He previously had "Trigger" noises that would send him into a rage and sometimes cause him to push his head throught the nearest window..  This stopped!   I was amazed...  On the down side...  He developed diarrhea after a couple weeks on the probiotics/oragano oil...  So I backed off... He would feel good one day and bad the next..  slept a lot.. but still much improved with the rages and bad behaviors.   Enter Threelac!  Heard about it on another site..  That site however, said that with Threelac, you didn't need the diet.  Hooray!  My son who is basically a carb eater, has lost 25 pounds!  Although he'll never ever eat sugar again... or distilled vinegars, or yeast... I was elated that he could have a potato or a few shreds of mozerella cheese on occasion.  Then I found this site, where it is not recommended that he go off the diet...  Now, as I said before.. he is doing so much better... besides the sleeping and diarrhea on occasion.. so I tested him again (SPIT TEST) and lo and behold.. LEGS!!!!  Now this blog explain it..  Even though he still has the stuff.. he IS doing so much better.. I think having it most of his life, maybe he has a tolerance built up.. It took only a few thousand of those varmits to die off before we got positive results!  The best past is, he started the Threelac day before yesterday and we've got "Die Off" again!    Woot Woot!    I think his system was getting adapted to the all the Oregao oil and probiotics... This is just what we needs to boost us onward...  Some good varmits with white hats to come along and eat the dead and dying bad varmits and clean up his system!  That's they way I'm seeing it anyway.. All those dead and dying 'bad varmits' can't be good, laying in there cloggling his sytem and poisoning him... If I can get his system fairly normalized, be cautious with his diet, and keep him fed with the 'Good Varmits" to clean up the mess... I think he can start eating a fairly normal diet.  Gonna try this any way!!!   I thought for the "Die Off" this time that I would some of the handy dandy activated charcoal to absorb the little dead bodies and keep them outta his blood stream..  I had forgotten I gave it to him after dinner last night... This morning we awoke to dark green/black diarrhea.. I almost freaked out with fear!  I tried to remember if I fed him anything green yesterday????  Then I finally remembered the charcoal..  What a start!!!  It was funny when I gave it to him, to see the black ring all around his mouth and black teeth...:D  But it sure gave me a start this morning..  Sorry if I grossed some of you delicate folks out..  But maybe it will keep someone else from having a panic attack too!  :D LOL 

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 Posted: Mon May 24th, 2010 01:56 am
   
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Interesting story concerning your son and again I would concentrate on the overall symptoms and not put too much weight on the spit test.:)

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 Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2010 01:02 pm
   
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I didn't need to do the spit test as I was coughing up stuff and it had legs on it before I got my first supplies of five-lac and inulation

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